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gerri: tonight, dpresident obama break the law? some in the senate sayes, and now the cases in front of a judge. we will have a heated debate. with more than a million charits and the u.s. alone, how diyou find the best one? we have you covered. "welcome to "the willis report."
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hello, everybody. i'm gerri willis. tonight no progress on the fiscal cliff as democrats and republicans trade barbs over the issue. one group of americans is finding a way through this regardless of congress and the president. small-business owners in this country are preparing to hire. join me now, chief u.s. economist for i may just pll one side. heart of america group founder, and member of the jobs creation alliance and actual job creators in this country who say their voices not being heard inhis office took with debate. also with us from the weekly standard, stevn haze. welcome. great to have you here. i want to start with the conversation in washington and what t speaker had to say about the status of the fiscal here is mr. boehner. >> this is in the progress report because there is no progress to report.
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when it coms to the fiscal cliff that is turning our economy and jobs, the white hhuse is wasted another week. gerri: what do you say? we wasted another week. we seem to be getting nowhere, and now folks are saying the president is trying to entice us of the fiscal cliff. >> look, i think they're actually some pty strong incentives for the president to take the country over the fiscal cliff. if you look at what the president's stance to gain if the country goes over the fiscal cliff, therare very clear and identifiable things. on the one hand the president uld identify himself as a tax cutter. he could say -- on january 1st the president in terms of the country and say, now in favor of cutting these taxes that have been raised because we did not solve this before the fiscal cliff. he can turn and say to my want to restore some ofhis funding that my secretary of defense and joint chiefs of staff told me i need to restore and can position
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himself as sort of the protector of u.s. national security. so there are some clear incentives to the president to lead the country over the fiscal cliff. do i think that's what he wants? probably not, but do i think there are incentives for him to do it temecula. gerri: never looked at it that way. as you look at this debate on going, there are a lot of folks who say we will be frting with recession or in recession if we do go over the cliff. do you agee? >> that happens only if wego off the cliff and stay off for an extended amount of time. to we don't go into recession just because we don't have a resolution on janua the first. it's a question of whether we have no resolution at that time but it seems that it's likely to a come within a short time. the longer we go into january with no resolution the more likely that we do go off the iff into recession.
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gerri: the broader conern is if we confined in the ground. great to have you on the show. only moments ago i was speaking to a fellow whose business buying and selling small businesses. he taught me allear long small siness owners out there seeing the fiscal cliff in front of them have been saying i'm ready to sell. have you seen that? >> well, i just talked to a friend of mine today. why would anybody in aerica who has been successful continue to do it? on january 1st if my wife and i get hit by a bust the government thinks they're entitled to 55% basically everything have made. here's one hotel that iona's with about $0 million. apparently passing them on to my children on january 1st is some kind of threat to there public. i think it's a threat to being in the land of the free.
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gerri: as you are implying, the taxes, the debt tax sores after january 1 if nothing happe. >> monster. gerri: absolutely frightening. to you, you can see how people are reacting in the heartland to this. we're seeing reports every single day about people who are no upping the ante to charity because they're worried that their charitable donation will be worth less. companies ar paying dividends like to have not seen in december. it seems to me like the rest of the world is ahead of congress. washington is in the rearview see, and everybody else is getting ahead of them. >> right. i say that's like every other day in america where the rest of the world as head of congress. [laughter] gerri: how is this different? [laughter] >> i think that's right. i think what we're seeing in public is a little bit different from all rehearsing in private. what you're likely to see is republicans agree to some kind of decoupling of th ax rate
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issue, whether they do it and this proposal that has been floated that they vote presnt and let the president and democrats on the issue or whether they free up -- whether john boehner frieze of members of congress to vote for some kind of a compromise that would include a rise in rates on the wealthy. i don't know what the mechanisms will be, but you have the negotiations taking place on the one hand, and on theother hand you have negotiations on all the st of the stuff which is likely to be lumped into some kind of an omnibus bill a series of bills at the end of the year struck the last minute to bail us out of this isue. likely to include a bunch of unattractive add-ons, last minute things, and it will be the kind of agreement, the kind of negotiation that leaves the rest of america, the heartland, as you say, even more disaffected with the ways that washingt is doing business. looks like the way that washington is going to be doing business frohere forward.
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gerri: to you. you watch this. you must be disbelieving. the length of time these things take. very important jobs numbers and the jobless rate in down to 7%. but what is astonishing about that report was not that number or even the one below it. it was the number of people who are out of the workforce, not looking for a job, a disaffected, the people who don't want to look. some 350,000 folks. this was, to me, a real wake-up call in the jobs market. what do you see? >> well, less than two out of three americans that are working that means moe than one out of three people e apparently sitting on. what kind of prductivity due respect to all kind of growtho we expect if one of three people are sitting home? we had a grand bargain in this country for about 50 years.
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we took aout 80 percent of gdp in revenue and spend 20. 19 and a balanced budget amendment. gerri: that put the capper on it. thank you for coming out tonight. we apprecie your time. >> thank you. gerri: have a great weekend, guys as you rushed to make destinations , don't do it blindly. coming up in half an hour, the ceo gives us his it done dating dos and don'ts. you'll want to hear that. a lot more still to ome to including one of the bellwether companies for employee benefits, changing the way it does retirement. next, the 19 memb of the sete banking committee tells us what he thinks needs to happen in d.c. to get a deal on the fiscal close. ♪ ♪
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♪ gerri: speaker john barrett today calling up the white house
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saying their wasting time and president obama is bringing our economy right to the edge. >> ford is your we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of friends that clinton's former chief of staff. since then there has been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to a slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. gerri: earlier i askd republican senator richard shelby of alabama for histake on the comments from boehner. >> i believe that speaker boehner is on the right track. the president has not come uptown now, been deeply involved, that we know about , in any of these offers are counterfers dealers said he has been campaigning to meet. but he has to get involved if he wants to avoid the fiscal liff. i think that the speaker has indicated that he will try to engage in, t to meet him and
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try to avoid the fiscal cleft that the presiient is gng to continue to say it is my way or the highway, that is another game. gei: it is. harry reid today saying that the game is at chess game, and the republicans are the jets. here is harry reid. >> he has a problem. he has three quarterbacks. he cannot decide who the quarterback is going to be. that is thesame problem republicans are having. romney is gone, but he is still in the background. we have mcconnell and boener. who is the quarterback, mr. president? gerri: whado you make of that analogy? >> well, that is a football analogy. we'ldo that from timto time, but the reality is the speaker of the house is the speaker. the house is the majority republican, and if he isgoing to advance that way, that is probably in order. senator mcconnell is involved, i'm sure taking with boehner
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out these isues. he always has been, but you have to have the spokesman, somebody to talk to. the president is absent up here, and i hope he will come to the table. i hope we can avoid it, but a lot of it is going to ultimately be on the president's watch. gerri: i have to tell you, there are other people mia. most of the house isgone on vacation. the senate is spending all this time figuring a helmet will be able to watch lincoln and have popcorn. this is what hrry reid is that the last couple of days doing. why can't we get people in the same room and try to get this thing resolved instead of just talking past each other? >> that is an excellent idea, but first a believe we have to get the presiden involved with the speaker o the house and see what the real parameters are and see if there is any real negotiating room there, wiggle room on each side. until that happens, you know, if you do it in the press and you do it in ohio, you do it in michigan, you do it in texas, somewhere else, that's not doing
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here. gerri: well, i want to get you to another topic as well today, which is the federal house in administration, hich is facing just an unprecedented financial problem. and now sean donovan ho runs the department of housing and urban development, hey, we are taking steps to try to lighten the load, but is it enough? and what is the right rescue? what is the right plan for the fha? >> actually, it is a timely question. we had the hud secretary before the banking committee yesterday. fha has over a trillion dollars in its portfolio. it is morrhagi billions of dollars it has a negative worth of value right nw. i am afraid it is going to be asking senate and later for a taxpayer bailout. they already have the mechansm in place to tap the treasury. i hope there won'. the secretary, i hope, will -- he has some tools at his
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discretion. he can run the premium of and bring in mo money. he can stop the hemorrhaging that way. he can also, perhaps, what to he makes loans to. some of the loans that wre made are just defaulting left and right. you can't have that kind of a housing policy. gerri: will it be enough simply to raise premiums? they have already done that, already trying to market these bad loans as quickly as they can. does the situation called for a more radical response? >> oh, i think raising premiums, you are right, alone will not do it. part of it is, it is iherent in the fha program. people are paying down so few dollars they have not much equity in the game. and a lot of them have lowered some of the chris coor's, you know, to get people. and people in default or have bad credit will continually default again. that is part of the problem on underwriting. gerri: we have to find some kind
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of solution because there is not a person i knowwho wants to bailout somebody else right now. i think we have had it with the bailouts. >> i hope so. gerri: me, too. senator richard shelby, think you for coming up tonight. an absolute pleasurto have you. >> thank you. ♪ gerri: president obama fliploping on his inauguration he is not going to accept unlimited sums of corporate money to pay for his inauguration. obama had banned corporate donors for is 2009 swearing-in in order to give the present supporters ownership. but now they will accept cash from companies and individuals to underwrite the cost of the festivities next moth. i guess taxpayers will have o foot some much of the bill, but corporate sponsors will be right there trying to get all of the influence the can. you're fired up about this during the issue, taught me an e-mail. gerri@foxbusiness.com. ♪ >> coming up on "the willis report," ibm getting flak from
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making major changes to itts retirement program. at what ost to its employees? could your employer pull a fast one i knew? jerry dissects it all next. ♪ is the president not doing everything by the book? fox news legal analyst is here to break down why some say he should be in trouble with the law. is the season for giving, but don't let washington fiscal cliff talks cloud your judgment for r nding the best cherries for your dope. our experts shares tips on at you need to know. we are on the case next on "the willis report".
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♪ gerri: big changes coming to tech giant ibm that may change the way you save for
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gerri: there is the story out there not getting a lot of attention today that you need to hear about, particularly if you care about your retirement. ibm overhauling its retirement program. instead of contributing to is employees 401(k) over time, the company will opt tocontribute a lump-sum payment once per year. this may not sound like a big change, but the move undermines the very idea of retirement savings. look, the attraction of a fox business is the idea that you leveled out what you pay for i investments over time. stock prices go uup, they go down, but over time you average out your risks and your cost. i call it dollar cost averaging. but with ibm's new plan the advantage of its lead disappears. this would not be ch a big deal, but ibm is considered a leader in employee you benefits. the company believes is the trail with innovative policies. and other big companies are sure to follow the lead. now, to be sure shareholders may
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like to move because it will save the company millions of dollars a year in compensation expenses. but employees who are close to retirement and desperately trying to make up for losses from the recession are not going to be so happy. and also, one thing we should say to be fair, at least ibm has a plan, and they are contributing to it. i want to make sure we've jealously guard every advantage to small investor has. that's why i'm talkinn about today. that brings me to the investment company institute and its press release this week, which, frankly, was a stunner. the investment company institute is a trade group representing mutual funds and other investment mpanies is product we all used to grow our mutual fund balances. they say after an examination of researching data the group gives its membrs a thumbs up on the jobs it has done, helpg americans prepare for retirement well done. i disagree. americans are struggling in their efforts to put together an
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accord retirement savings. truetotal retirement dollars have risen over the nearly 30 years the trade group is studying, but you expect that because many households lost the benefit of company sponsored pensions an were forced to start sitting on their own. we need to look at the cold hard reality. the majority of americans, some 75%, havee les than $30,000 in their retirement accounts back in 2010. the savings accrued by the majority of middle-class seniors will support their current stdard of living. instead of cutting each other on the back we need to get serious about what eventually will be retirement catastrophe if we don't do something different. applauding the move because it saves a penny or two is a big fat mistake. that's my view. coming up, it is the season to give to charity, espeally before the end of the year so you can get tax breaks. what to those charities? and the president obama break the law? for legal eagles looked at in
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gerri: did president obama break the law? a federal appeals court is deciding if the president's appointments to the national labor relations board when the senate was on recess was unlawful. why? well, because senate senate republicans say the senate was in session. the chris was brought on by a bottling company after the nlrb ruled that the company must enter into a collective bargaining agreement with the labor union. the company is arguing the decision can't be made because the recess appointments are invalid. here is weigh inlis wiehl, fox news analyst and randy zelen. look at the end of the day this wholehing is argument was the senate in session or
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was it no >> were they in kindergarten or on recess. the president may have skirted the law a little bit, like a little bitf sidelining it but did he cross over the line? no. does this happen all the time? yes. yes it does. melissa: randy, what do you say. >> skirted the law like i'm wearing a skirt. he obliterated law. exactly. let's take a sep back look at what this whole thing was signed to do. once a upon a time, smart guys, founding father, look you have to make a temporary appointment, senate confirm it we'll not the drag the senate back in. mr. president do what you have to do. it was for the convenes of senate, not to screw the senate which is exactly what the president is doing. >> this is family show. we don't speak in those terms. melissa: was he trying to get around the senate? was he tryingto do something that the senate did not like? >> he was spirited but he
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did not go over the line. legally it is proper. you can't argue with that >> yes i c. >> knock yourself out. at that. >> he killed it. he threw it out the window. >> how is it illegal? >> because first of all it is intercession. the congress, senate is supposed to be gone until 2013. they're not gone. they're still around. which means there is no interrecess. in fact arguing f the president blew it and kind of admitted it. >> thnically they declared recess. that meant they were out. whether they were physically there or not, it doesn't really make a difference. they declared a recess. that means there was recess. he could make those appointments. melissa: move ooto something is something else you will disaee. this isn't just about politics, randy? >> yes. melissa:. >> but it doesn't matter. you're asking a legal question. the --. melissa: that is political question now. and let me expand on it because i think the president is ing this as
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an oning and may revisit this. this is wasn't like, oh, shoot, i didn't realize -- >> of course not much of course not. >> taking full advange, is that what we want from our government leaders. >> if whate legally can take full advantage of. >> i disagree. i agree it is taking advantage. that is exactly what it is. is that the message we want to send? when do we as citizens take off i'm with stupid t-shirts. this why we don't get anything done. melissa: we're good at that. how do you think the court will rule? >> it will be legal. cot will look at it, but say, the senate was i recess. it was completely legal and according to what other precedents done. >> no question, based on questions thrown at the torneys the court is sayingome on, wait a second. they were not in recess. >> that's not what gerri was asking. gerri is asking what will the court absolutely rule? >> they're going to say no, no, n.
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smack, mr. president. >> smack, mr. president. break that down a little bit. >> that he shoun't have done it. wrong for doing it. he broke the law. he didn't skirt it. he broke it. >> the court will say cording to you what he did woos illegal? >> the appointment is gone. see ya. >> you're wrong. melissa: what does -- >> either side will aeal. then t supreme court will take it or not take it. i don't think so. >> i kind of hope that they do, i nothing else to say, it's enough with this stuff. thenly thing that everybody in government can agree on is to call a fancy sound bite like the fisc cliff but not get anything done. this is primary example why we don'' get anything done. melissa: we agree to disagree, am i right? >> we're definitely agreeing to disagree. melissa: i love when th happens. randy first time. >> thanks so much for happening. delightful to be on with you, and you. melissa: thank you so much. we want to know, we want to follow up on a story we've
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been covering for some time now. michigan a labor mecca as you know is now a right-to-work state, believe it or not. like other states in the region republicans achieved almost impossible feat, to get the statehouse and senate to pass the legislation in one single day. the state could become the 24th right-to-work state with a law next week. that means workers will not be required to join a union or pay dues as a condition of employment. rules require a five-day waiting period before the governor can sign the bills which he has pledged to do the bills passed despite cries of outrage of union activists who stormed the state capitol. police were formed to use pepper spray to subdue the protesters. there were walk outs from democrats. >> these guys lied to every day and acting like cowards pushg this through in the dark of night lame duck. >> heays this is leadership. >> baloney. melissa: republicans lost five house seats in the november election and admitted to wanting to get
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it done before the legislatureakes office next month unions may not like it. it is pro-workers pro-growth, pro-ployment, pro-economy. you name it. go for them. still to come my two cents more on barney frank's next career move. it is a shocker. will it be a merry little christmas for the stock market? scott martin will tell us whether santa will bng a bull or a bear and what 2013 has in store for us. ♪ . the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone likes 50% more... [ midwestern/chicago accent ] cheddar! yeah! 50 percent more [yodeling] yodel-ay-ee-oo. 50% more flash. [ southern accent ] 50 percent more taters. that's where tots come from.
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melissa: "fox business alert" for you now. netflix is facing scrutiny over a facebook post by its ceo. listen to this. securities & exchange commission recommending
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action be broht against ceo reed hastings. he posted his online video, viewin exceeded one billion hours for the first time ever in june. information how the company was performing. the sec says that information should have been discsed in a regulatory filing or news release. shares of nelix rose more than 6% on the day of the post and another 13 points on the next trading day. in response to the sec notice hastings used facebook again to call the probe a fascinatin social medistory. wow! taunting them. and while the dow and s&p ended the week in the green, wall street seems pretty split how the market will perform in 2013. some analysts predicting gains as much as4%. others aosas much as 2%. scott martin, chief market strategist for united advisors joins me now. i can't say scott martin and stock market together. it is not wking for me today. >> should i leave the business then and do something else, huh?
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melissa: i think we should talk about something else. i'm getting t to talk about the santa claus rally. is there a santa claus rally? will very a true santa clause rally? >> i think it will be tough to get one, i really do. there will be repositions portfolios at end of the year. people are getting nervous about the fiscal cliff. i wasn't that concerned a couple wee ago. you got on top of me about that and you were totally correct. it is starting to hurt people. it was a good call by you. i think that hurts stocks by end of the yr and investor spending an appetite and consumer spending as well. >> i love it when you tell me i'm right. it often doesn't last very long. i got to think though at some point whene get some real clarity on this, really, no matter what, whether it is good for bad for investors and taxpayers, there is going to be a little relief in the market, don'you think? >> i think so. and you're right, clarity is definitely i think what a lot of people are looking fo both side of the aisle i
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think want to get something done it is just what. the other question though i have, we talk about the s&p 500, right? let's say today it is at 1420 or so. when you look at corporate profits, gerri and imct in potential changes in tax regulations will be on company profits you have to revalue the market somewhere in here which i think is at lower price if compans are trying to pay t government more money. gerri: let's talk about 2013 and what we might expect. as i said in the intro, expectations are all over e place. citigroup predicting stocks will go up 14% next year. goldman sachs 11, ubs just 1%. morgan stanley one. wells fargo says the market will go down 2%. where do you fall? >> i'm probably up four or 5%. i'm not expecting that great of a year net -- net at end of the year. i think it will be pretty bumpy at the end of the year while the stuff gets worked out and people reevaluate the landscape of everything. i will comment on the
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numbers you threw out there. that scares me a little bit that everybody is so, let's say positive. i don't want to spike the eggnog here but the fact there is not one person or one bank that says the market will be down next year frightens me a little bit. gerri: wells fargo says it will be down by 2%. they're the outlyer. >> right. gerri: they are the only one of five we talked about. a lot of optimism out there. we've been in the bull market a long time. it has been very strong. people get complacent. they start betting same thing will happen over and over again. is that the same thing i see a lot of fellow strategists make? >> a lot of times. people do the old, you chase the returns and get in at the last minute a get hit when the market goes down. i will tell you, you made a good comment, it has been a good bull market. investor hasn't participated in much of the gns. i hope they're not left out in the cold here as the market seems to top out. gerri: usually the smallest investors get in the latest in the rally and often miss highs.
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it always happens that way. it is sad but true. you said housing will be an important driver of growth in 2013. finally, finally you think it will happen? >> believe it or not, gerri, i like the housing sector. transactions are happening all over the place. banks are lending money. housing is only 5% of the gdp after it got decimated last few years and has a long way to come back but the arrow is pointing out up. gerri: thanks. good to talk to you. scott martin, stock market. scott martin, stock market. >> i will stay in the business one more day. gerri: have a good weekend. bye. gerri: eyes of big government will soon be in your life every way, and soon in your car. they are proposing automakers install black boxes like you see in airline cockpits. they will be in all passenger vehicles after december 21st, 2014. they automatilly record
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the drivers responses of vehicles in continue us loops. that information couldn't be misused now, could it? hmmm. coming up next the obamas lighted the national christmas tree. see how many trees are inside thehite use. you will be astonished. ♪ ♪ ♪ here come the -- [ cap twisting off ] hey, yo?! i lost audio. what happened?! [ ice crackling ] what!?!? oh, it better not be! what's going on?
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gerri: americans are back to using their credit cards now in record numbers. according to the federal reserve, u.s. consumer borrowing hitting a rord .7 trillion in october. that is up more than 14 dal billion month over month. they were using them to buy cars and attend schools. autos and student loans increased nearly $11 billion. moving on giving to charity during the holidays is always a good feeling. nearly half of all contributions charities receive each year are made between thanksgiving and new year's. with talks of cgress limiting the charitable tax deduction as part of the fiscal cliff negotiation will this ar be any different? we have the head of charity navigator with me now.
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ken, we were talking during the break, there has been, you've seen increasing contributions to charities this year because of that fiscal cliff. what do you see? >> we've seen some larger charities have seen as much as 7 or 8% increase in donations whereas some of the smaller charities they're still struggling and donations are somewhat level from last year. gerri: you know, people have this on the front of mind. this is traditionalime of year you make your contributions and this year more than ever i think people are thinking their dollar will go further because of the possible changes in taxes. what is the one thing you would tell folks this year about chartable giving? what do they need to think about or remember this year? >> they need to remember that even now more than every charities really need their help. there is more of a demand because of unemployment, because of other challenges out there, disasters and storms and so forth. in additi to th, they're already over the fiscal cliff to some degree in the
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sense they're seeing very large reductions in the amount of support ey get for support they provide through government funding. they have already gotten a haircut. gerri: they're squeezedoth ways? >> indeed they are. gerri: your organization doing a lot of polling of the people who give and the people who take. what are you hearing? >> we heareople are planning to give at least a little bit more. the economy has slowly improved. people feel they are able to give a bit more and need out there is tremendous for the services of many of these charities. gerri: now the beauty of your website ishat you actually rate, rank these charities and talk about what they're good at, what they're bad at. how much of their money is actuly going to the charitable cause they're pursuing. tell us about a litt bit about your website and what is it people really need to pay attention to when they're picking a charity? >> sure. we rate me charities than any other organization in the world. we're about, half of all the moneyn donations goes to those charities we evaluate and we're continuing to expand.
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there are three critical things people should consider and our website is working on all of that. one is the finances ofhe organization. is the money going to the right place? does the organization have sustainability, financial health? the second area what we call st practice, governance, accountability and transparency. it is all about do they have a strong board so the ceo is accountable others and they're hical in their practices. the third is mission critical. what about the results o ire work? do you do more than story telling? if you have an emoyment program how many people are employed a year out? really meaningful information that you're changing lives. gerri: we were talking i the break about some of the things go wrong awry with charities. you have to be careful in choosing one. telemarketing firms are a big issue. what is going on? >> there are a number of investigations and congress is thinking of getting involved as well. apparently telemarketers are gouging more and more money out of a lot of charitable donations and a lot of relatively large charities
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e getting involved. what it means r a donor, 50 cents of your dollar, 90 cents your dollar, in some cases 100% of your dollar is going to the telemarketers of your cause. gerri: you sayo strgs attached what does thatt3 mean? >> once you trust, you come to organizations like ours, don't hamstring them and say just use the money for this purpose because your dollars are precious and emergency and crisis you give themhe flexibility to make the judgment on the ground it can be incredibly powerful and helpful. gerri: find the perfect fit. you do want to find a charity out there doing something y're interested in and connected to, right? >> yes. sometimes a charity will have a broad mission that sounds right but if you ill it down it may not be what you have in mind. for example an organization in the area of cancer and you think they're providing examinations and it turns out they're doing lobbying. so you really need to know it fits what you're intested in. gerri: you say don't forget
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nonsandy charities. are all the sandy charities getting all the money this year? >> unfortunately when disasters happen there is flood of money because of a good heart of america and it is appropriate that way, but when it happens right have to make choices where your charitable dollars to go there is tension and some charities that lose out that really need help. of course it is no easy choice for a donor. we recommend if at all possib that you don't forget those charities at are there for you all year-round. gerri: up 7.5% for the big charities. that is an amazing number. ken, thanks for coming on. it is charitynavigate tore.org, correct? >> correct. gerri: great website. president obama and his family getting into the christmas spirit at the 90th tree-lighting ceremony at the whites house. it was transplanted to the white house days before the hurricane. look at that. it is cool. it made it through unharmed.
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obama was saying santa claus is coming to town. this is the treeutside. guess what? there are 54 more of them inside the house. than last year. there is one tree dedicated just to the obama family dog, bo. of course 100 pound gingerbread hse has working chan dell leers. with the country in budget cris and many in the northeast not able to get a christmas tree this year thanks to sandy, you would think they would tone it down a little bit. that's what i think. we want tonow what you think. does the white house need 54 christmas trees? log on to gerriwillicom and vote the right-hand side of the screen. i will announce the results at end of the show. with all the talk about the white house christmas tree and rockefeller christmas tree you would think they're the biggest and brightest around but they are not. here are the top five tallest christmas trees in the country. number five, the mayor's christmas tree in kansas city, missouri.
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100 foot tall tree in the city. not bought but grown by the mayor himself way to go. number four, the christmas tree at the grove in los angeles. they mayot have a white christmas but they certainly have the spirit thanks to 110 foot white fir adorned with 10,000 lights and 15,000 decorations. number three the outlet mall in anthem, arizona. the 112-foot tree is decaded with two miles of lights and more than 3000 ornaments. took 14 workers to put up the tree probably weeks and weeks and weeks. number two the victoria village in fern dale, california. 1557 foot tree. still growing. the fire department deck rates the spruce at the end. main street. number one tallest christmas tree i t country. the tree at coeur d' alene in idaho. gorgeous. makes it easier. feet tall. the star alone is 10 feet tall. the rockefeller tree in new
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block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. gerri: the white house and congress fight over cutting spending, the white house to celebrate the holiday season with 54 christmas trees. does the white house need that many? here is what some of you are tweeting me. no way. how wasteful. mark has a different response. as long as they keep telling em christmas trees and 54 is fine. we also asked on . 3 percent said yes, and 97 percent said no. be sure to log on for our on-line question every weekday. here are some of your e-mails. any cat has to start at the top. the agency's, the salaries of
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all government employees. more of a leg to stand on about fairness and taxing the rich. if our politicians would give up their entitlements we would save the country billions and not have to affect the eneral public and their social security and medicare. dan says, thii tax bite is why we should hold elections on april 15th. that is a great idea. it all comes together. i love hearing from you. send me an e-mail. gerri@foxbusiness.com. finally tonight, just when you thought of retiring massachusetts congressman -- congressman barney frank was stepping out of the limelight, no way. the boston globe reporting the 72-year-old democratic congressman who is set to retire in january hired the bi shot hollywood agency william morris to represent him in the next phase of his career. william morris is run by r.e.m. manuel, the brother of chicago mayor and the inspiration for the character ari goldman the

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